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Old 12-07-2014, 11:11 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
What we need is hard data proving that the benefit is stronger than the cost of separating hydrogen and oxygen.
I forget the thread in the unicorn where I 1st pointed this out in .. but technically if we want to split hairs ... that one piece can be done and has been .. and it is known .. it just doesn't matter ... it is still not worth doing... ie it's a much much smaller benefit than many other options.

Basically it boils down to two parts:

Part #1> The only cost we care about is the cost we pay for .. we don't care about the cost we don't pay for... which is why heat pumps are preferred ... because it can take less energy to move energy than the amount of energy you moved... we don't care about the energy the heat pump took from the the source we don't have to pay for ourselves.

Part #2> Endothermic vs exothermic chemical reactions of HHO in different conditions / contexts... which it does have .. even if it no where near as good as other materials .. which is why other better materials ... like ammonia (with better properties) are used in ammonia chillers and other such applications ... and not an HHO (endo/exo-thermic) cycle.

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The HHO (endo/exo-thermic) cycle is soo much worse at this than other materials ... we don't use it (on purpose) ... it isn't that it doesn't exist ... it is just vastly inferior (to other options) in just about every metric you can think of (size, weight, Price $, efficiency, etc.).

I can also use copper to make a very inferior Solar energy to Electric conversion ... Link ... it isn't that it doesn't exist ... it is just soo horribly inferior to other far better options ... we don't do it (on purpose).
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