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Old 01-08-2015, 06:52 PM   #239 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Old Mechanic View Post
It's actually ludicrous to separate the connection fee from the total eletric bill,
Quite the opposite is true. This debate is not a matter of opinion. It is factually incorrect to include fixed electric costs into the incremental cost of owning an EV. The whole point is to see how much more you will pay each year by having an EV, and the monthly connection cost to the utility has absolutely no bearing on the additional cost of owning an EV.

If a person still wants to incorrectly include the monthly connection fee to the cost of EV ownership, they must also include it in the cost of a gasoline vehicle, effectively cancelling out the cost when comparing the price difference between vehicles.

Why should we include the electric connection fee to a gasoline vehicle? Sometimes you need to put a battery on the charger, or perhaps float charge a battery over winter, or use a shop vac to clean the interior, or run a compressor to fill the tires, open an electric garage door...

While it is incorrect to include the connection fee when figuring the incremental cost of EV ownership, it would be equally improper to apply it only to an EV, but not to a gasoline vehicle when considering the difference in cost between the 2.

My cost of vehicle ownership calculator can handle the absurdity of adding in the monthly connection fee. Just be sure to add it for all vehicles to get an accurate representation of the price difference between them.

To Old Mech's point of maintenance costs of an EV due to the battery degrading, in my example I depreciated the EV vehicle down to $500 at the end of ownership to represent the battery being totally bad, and the vehicle only being worth junk yard price.

Without running the numbers and showing them, speculating the cost of EV vs gas cost is pointless. There is no reason to speculate about the topic when a person can actually simulate with numbers. Speculating without running the numbers is foolish and dishonest. Why take a religious stance on this topic when math can easily be applied?
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