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Originally Posted by ksa8907
To start things off I should point out, the references you made to the IIHS presentation is good. But its a presentation not a technical paper, so we don't know if those "per 1 million registered vehicles" is one million vehicles distributed among the different types, or 1 million of each type.
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From where I sit .. you asked for data .. I pointed it out to you 3 times before you bothered to read the highlights ... what better evidence do you counter with ?
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If you still believe you are correct, please show me REAL DATA from a PEER REVIEWED STUDY/TECHNICAL PAPER.
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I've shown you real data .. what better evidence is your counter ?
I am completely open to the possibility of being wrong .. but .. opinion vs data won't sell it to me.
As for what I believe .. just for a bit of clarification .. I am personally of the opinion that the situation and context actually play a large enough factor that , that is what ends up dominating ... in some cases lighter is safer , in other cases heavier is safer .. but statistically over all to everyone (not just those inside of the vehicle) lighter is over all statistically safer for everyone involved.
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Originally Posted by ksa8907
Also, taken directly from the summary of the presentation: "• Smaller and lighter vehicles will always have some disadvantage"
I really don't know how to chalk that one up in favor of smaller and lighter vehicles.
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Of course they have some disadvantages .. there is no free lunch .. there is no one option is always better in every possible context.
As for how .. Go back and re-read post #33 ... I already explained it.
1 death in 1,500 vehicles is less safe than 1 death 3,333 vehicles.
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Originally Posted by ksa8907
As far as our disagreeing, I'll drive my larger and heavier vehicle and you can drive your smaller and lighter vehicle. For your sake, I hope we never wind up in an accident together.
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And for everyone around you that you make less safe with the heavier vehicle .. there are numerous studies I can show for that as well if you like ... and for you and everyone you take with you inside of the heavier vehicle .. I hope you and they all beat the odds ... I invoke your previous 'safety of loved ones speech against your heavy (less safe) vehicle'.
