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Old 02-14-2015, 10:09 PM   #95 (permalink)
ksa8907
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Originally Posted by IamIan View Post
From where I sit .. you asked for data .. I pointed it out to you 3 times before you bothered to read the highlights ... what better evidence do you counter with ?



I've shown you real data .. what better evidence is your counter ?

I am completely open to the possibility of being wrong .. but .. opinion vs data won't sell it to me.

As for what I believe .. just for a bit of clarification .. I am personally of the opinion that the situation and context actually play a large enough factor that , that is what ends up dominating ... in some cases lighter is safer , in other cases heavier is safer .. but statistically over all to everyone (not just those inside of the vehicle) lighter is over all statistically safer for everyone involved.



Of course they have some disadvantages .. there is no free lunch .. there is no one option is always better in every possible context.

As for how .. Go back and re-read post #33 ... I already explained it.

1 death in 1,500 vehicles is less safe than 1 death 3,333 vehicles.



And for everyone around you that you make less safe with the heavier vehicle .. there are numerous studies I can show for that as well if you like ... and for you and everyone you take with you inside of the heavier vehicle .. I hope you and they all beat the odds ... I invoke your previous 'safety of loved ones speech against your heavy (less safe) vehicle'.
I must have missed the data, mind posting it again? All i saw was some graphs in a presentation and some extrapolations you made.

Also, the whole 1 in1500 or 1 in 3333 is not using accurate data. When the graphs listed "per 1million registered vehicles, it means of each type. You then assumed it meant that those were the results given 1 million random vehicles being selected.

Also, i forget who linked it, but one study even mentioned how miles driven would be a much more accurate way to calculate risk. I would love to see a study with that in mind.

Our interactions are starting to get a little negative, i do appologize. If i am wrong i have no problem admitting it, but like you, i need to see the data. Unfortunately, i don't think it exists.
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