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Originally Posted by IamIan
Off hand .. I can't think of any example of something that the majority actually seriously wants and pushes for as a high priority ... that the government has ever successfully been able to 'squash'... Please give me one of the 100s of examples you were thinking of ??? ... Off hand I think of examples of the exact opposite .. prohibition being an easy one.
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How about POPA/PIPA, Net Neutrality or anything else that threatens Internet? |
What about them ?
AFAIK the majority have not made any of those a high priority and pushed for or against them as a high priority ... AFAIK those are such a low priority to the majority that they don't even bother to know what they are.
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And prohibition isn't a closed book yet
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I don't expect it to be .. there are still people promoting a Flat Earth for goodness sake .. But prohibition remains a good example none the less , of what happens when the majority wants something as a high priority ... The government buckles and gives in.
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Originally Posted by IamIan
Off hand .. I can't think of any example of something that the majority actually seriously wants and pushes for as a high priority ... that the government has ever successfully been able to 'squash'... Please give me one of the 100s of examples you were thinking of ??? ... Off hand I think of examples of the exact opposite .. prohibition being an easy one
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So let me think of a few majority supported ideas that have yet to see the light of day |
Not just casually 'support' an idea ... but as I wrote .. actually seriously make it a high priority .. there is a significant difference.
The short take for your entire list ... is that none of them are a 'high priority' to the majority ... and 2 things to keep in mind to various degrees about each:
#1> As the saying goes .. talk is cheap... what is actually a high-priority to someone .. is what they choose to spend their time and money supporting , and investing in... it is not necessarily what they casually give lip service to but actually do not invest or support with their time and $$$.
#2> A high priority ... is not just a casual desire , interest ... those can be very low priorities .. a high priority is something that is more important to someone than a significant number of other things ... ie .. X > Y ... X is the high priority ... Y is not ... it doesn't matter if someone also wants Y .. or would casually like to have Y ... it is a lower priority to them.
I can address each individual item you listed if you like .. just let me know , and I will ... but they basically are each just slight variations of .. #1 and #2 above .. and are not actually a serious high priority to the majority of people.
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This is why I support the 50 individual states idea. Out of the 50 you can really try different ideas and philosophies and really see what works and what is snake oil.
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That's a fine idea ... but keep in mind ... two things:
#1> Humans have many many similarities from person to person .. Sure there are differences ... just like there are differences now from state to state ... but the larger the population size .. the more 'average' of results you get .. It is extremely likely and expected for all 50 of those ... to converge on many issues... which is what we have.
#2> Also keep in mind .. we've already tried lots of ideas ... throughout the thousands of years of human history.