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Old 04-21-2015, 08:20 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roosterk0031 View Post
All E85 pumps are labeled 70% ethanol minimum here, never tested it myself, just takes a calibrated cylinder and a some water but I don't care to. I'll trust the pump label.

Are your cars fuel injected or carbed? I could see carbs showing your losses in power mpg etc... more than a fuel injected ones.

I can run into the E40 range with my non-FFV cars and only symptom is reduced MPG/range.......the butt dyno isn't very accurate.
"ethanol in gasoline industry" has been taken to court several times, for numerous ethanol percentage "errors", "double blendings" to 20% & sold as "no more than 10%", & other ethanol dumpings to 64%. Since they pay court directed penalties, the "errors" are found to be intentional. So much for trusting the pump label.

My fuel injected cars show just as much loss as carbed cars. They have to. You intentionally don't understand my previous posts. Ethanol only gives up its maximum usable btus in high 114 octane, high compression ratio (16:1) ethanol engines tuned to ethanol(Indy cars). 10% ethanol blends, as used(not burned efficiently) in low 87 octane, low compression ratio (9:1 to 12:1) gasoline tuned for 100% gasoline, lose 8%, 8%, 7% & 5% mpg.

The reason for the wide price gap between E10/E0 is because EPA & "ethanol in gasoline industry" has forced E0 to rarity, automatically driving E0 prices up. If the mandate to add ethanol into our nation's fuel stocks is ended, pure-gas.org shows that E0 will readily lose its rarity & price between E10 & E0 will become closer. Already E0 source listings have increased from under 2000 to 9230 & will be 10,000 by late 2015/early 2016.
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