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Old 06-18-2015, 10:01 PM   #84 (permalink)
ECONORAM
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Near perfect conditions yesterday (mild, dry, light to no wind), so I got out to do testing on my usual flat test route, with no other traffic to interfere.

And I have to say: I am super disappointed with the numbers! I've never seen a tail have such a small impact:

2% improvement (1 mpg US) at 90 km/h / 56 mph.

I'll post the full details later on.
First off, wish I'd found this thread sooner! Second, my thoughts exactly (disappointed) when I saw the graphs you posted previously. Based on what I'd seen from other Kamm/Tail combos, this didn't compute...
[edit] I just experienced similar disappointment when I (temporarily) removed my truck's topper and fabled a quick corroplast bed cover. Negligible mpg difference; so I'm confused.

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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
We'll have to except the numbers for what they are.It is what it is.
All the time,energy,and trouble to do the testing will be valuable just the same.
Sir James Dyson said he never learned a thing from his successes.It was the 'failures' which were the most valuable.
Carl Breer's team, Dr.Gino Sovran,and Hucho have all warned about limited results from drag reduction if the engine could not be maintained at a constant load to maintain BSFC.
I don't know that this is what's going on,but since it's been emphasized in the literature,it's something obvious that we must consider.
If the load is reduced,you're at even less part-load.The throttle body may be nearly shut as,unlike a Honda carbureted CIVIC,with three throttle bodies,the '07 is taking all air in through a single barn door.Barely cracked open.(horrible volumetric efficiency).
Without another gear to load the engine back up,the BSFC may have fallen off its island of peak efficiency.
Darin,we're indebted to you for going through the whole process and all on your own nickel.Lets see what we can figure out.
Since the US dumped the 55-mph speed limit,the CIVIC may be calibrated to run at higher posted speeds.If we had a baseline at 75-mph,we might see a completely different trend.
Thanks for all you do!
That is an interesting thought. My truck is also a single blade throttle; it causes me some difficulty when dawdling along on base (25 mph limits typically). I'm thinking a warm air intake will help this?

I like SH130; 80-85 mph is nice (except when the vehicle guzzles fuel at 15-16 mpg)
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