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Old 07-17-2015, 07:41 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by IamIan View Post
Results = reality ...

Observation to-date does not agree with your if above.
Oh, so populations of animals with low fertility rates don't die out :/

Originally Posted by niky View Post
Contrawise, you can apply all the population control propaganda you want in poorer countries,
The problem here is the "reverse engineering" that goes into that assumption. Any reasonably well off population is perfectly capable of "improving" their fertility rate, if they believe it is in their best interests to do so.

Originally Posted by niky View Post
It all boils down to education and employment for women. Work on that, and you're well on your way to slowing down population growth.
It may be too narrow an "education", sure you can convince them (and the males) that mass abortions of convenience isn't murder, but really you have moved conflict between adults competing for resources, to adults killing an undefensible and unrepresented population. And like colonization, we are so sure we are right (we are the smart and educated ones!) that nobody thinks twice about imposing our views on anyone we see fit. Another manifest destiny perhaps.

Originally Posted by niky View Post
Progress is progress.
Again, that progress word. It is more like compromise, and while everyone thinks they have the answers, they don't know the long term effects of this either.

My take on it is that a large number of people want a "peaceful" reduction of the population, but observations about evolution have shown that conflict/struggle is necessary for evolutionary progress. I mean if the pacifists die out, then who is left to breed?
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