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Originally Posted by Daox
Paying $6k (24% more) for 11 EV miles in my mind is crazy. Yes, I realize it has more options, but its still a silly jump from 50 mpg to 11 miles EV + 50 mpg. At that price point, the Volt's current price of $34,170 (before any tax incentives/rebates) makes more sense IMO.
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I agree with you on this too. It seems Toyota is pocketing the hefty price difference between the regular and plug-in version of the Prius. People would be crazy to get the PiP over the new Volt, which might also be a factor in why Toyota decided to halt production. From what I've read, the new Volt is a hit.
In February I paid $13k for my PiP with 35,000 miles on it. It was in a prior accident and had a reconstructed title. Not a single issue with it so far and averaging 60 MPG. I'd never pay for a new PiP, but apparently HOV access makes them appealing to those with money.
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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
I think it is fine to haul around a bigger battery, and the problem is having to haul around big ICE and gas tank.
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You are describing an EV, not a hybrid like the PiP. If you already have an efficient ICE, then it doesn't make any sense to lug around the extra battery capacity. I'll eventually replace my Acura, because as you point out, dragging around an ICE sucks. My family will then have an efficient car for long trips and an efficient car for commuting/errand running.
What really doesn't make sense is EVs with 200+ miles of EV range. It's not practical to expect to go cross-country in an EV. Either trade vehicles with a friend for the trip, or have 1 of the cars in a multi-car family have an ICE.
People have the unrealistic requirement of EVs having all of the benefits of conventional cars with no additional drawbacks, when in reality it's a different tool for a different job.
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
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Average daily vehicle use in the U.S.
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average of 4.2 trips, yielding a weighted average daily distance of 39.5 miles.
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Which averages out to less than 10 miles per trip; within the PiP range. Ford's 20 mile range should get closer to covering those trips that go a little further.