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Old 01-04-2016, 04:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
*You'll have to help me with what you mean by 'cut-out.'
He's talking about the mirror which has a cut out in the step to allow the pathway for vision.
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This mirror is an example of what I am talking about regarding a concave area to set up the swirl. Even though Morelli doesn't specify a concave form, I think we would agree his research on this concept is incomplete. I would intuitively suggest that a concave form with a knife edged break leading to a quarter round inner wall/ base joint feature would be the most efficient shape in order to set up the rolling toroidal air formation needed for the root of the fluid tail. With a concave depth approaching half the narrow width of the outer oval.
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The inner round over might not make much difference but the concave depression seams obvious to me. I would love to see some comparative coast down data on the Prius with the concave truncated tail that was posted above. Even though it followed the body and was not perfectly oval, it looks like it would be very effective even though the swirl would not approach the ideal toroid motion because of the corners.

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