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Old 01-20-2016, 10:19 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mmonce View Post
Older cars used to get better mpg than autos. Now the opposite is true. Part of the new inefficiency is our car's ECU not allowing our engines idle when we are coasting in neutral or gear.
EPA doesn't test coasting in neutral, so that's not why autos sometimes do better on the EPA cycle.

Real world, manuals still beat autos.

Besides, you need to be at 2000rpm before gliding in gear to enter DFCO and use zero fuel. This isn't very useful in an FJ but works brilliantly in small cars. You can also key off with the car in gear, this keeps everything working but essentially means forced DFCO.
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