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Old 06-30-2016, 07:40 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RustyLugNut View Post
That engine needed 230 cc of HHO gas to produce that 22 HP along with the attendant fuel. That 230 cc of HHO was produced by running 10 amperes through a 4 cell series electrolyzer. At 14v alternator output, that represents 140 watts. Even with gross conversion efficiencies as low as 33%, you would spend 420 watts to produce a gain of 1490 for a net gain of 1070 watts
OK, Now we can discuss something since you're using numbers instead of a bunch of technical terms to describe how the HHO "Makes the gasoline burn better and it helps like Soooooo much".

230 CC per Minute? Second? Hour? This is at STP I trust? How do you know it's 10 amps? How do you know it's 230 CC per (?)

Something that gives me serious concern is if it's 230cc per minute, you are diluting the fuel by ~2,500:1 in relation to the air and 160:1 in relation to the fuel. I'd like to hear how the theory of O³-H² enhanced combustion can improve the HP by 10% when it is 0.6% of the fuel stream.

Also, the efficiency of the engine is 30%, generous efficiency of the alternator is 70%. Sooooo 10 amps =140 watts /.21 which is more like 667 watts of engine power needed.

I'm trying to wrap my head around how it takes 180 MJ to electrolyze 9 liters of water, which would require about 6.6 Gallons of gasoline. Reduced down, this is 3/8ths of a gallon per hour to generate your 230cc per minute. At 40 mpg and 60 MPH, this would be a 8mpg loss to your vehicle to generate 230 CC per minute. These numbers assume the gasoline has 129 MJ/Gallon and you get 1,800 Liters of HHO per liter of water. It assumes the energy conversion of gasoline to electricity is 21%.

Hmm. Did I do something wrong?

Lemme know.