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Old 09-13-2016, 03:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
adam728
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Mazda3 - '08 Mazda 3 S
90 day: 29.65 mpg (US)

DR650SE - '13 Suzuki DR650SE
90 day: 46.16 mpg (US)

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Originally Posted by cosmick View Post
Both GM and Ford wisely required at least a 2.8L V6 for their 4x4 mini pickups, and those v6s were a bit crap, but the GM 2.5 and the Ford 2.3 were even more crap for 4wd use. Ford soon replaced their 2.8 with a 2.9 which was no better, and GM added the excellent 4.3 before Ford poked and stroked the 2.9 to a 4.0, but at least they revised the head castings for slightly less cracking.
Dunno about the other minis, all the others i drove were 2wd with 5 speed manuals, the Isuzu had more potential for a street sport, the Toyota drove more carlike but the 22R isnt torquey enough. The Nissan was decent but no standout. And none of them had a frame competitive to the GM.
All depends what your off road targets are. I've owned two 22RE Toyota's and both were great off road. Climbing a dune at 50 mph? No. Turning 40's thru chest deep peat bog? No. Rock climbing? Snow wheeling? Climbing legal hills and mud holes? Great little trucks.

I also had a TJ with the 4.0. Dismal highway mpg, but would probably run all year off road on 1 tank. So it sometimes seemed.
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