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Old 09-17-2016, 08:26 PM   #142 (permalink)
Isaac Zackary
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
Where will the electricity come from to power the electrolysis.



It won't. HHO is the equivalent of putting a wind turbine on top of your car to generate electricity to power the car.

In the case of HHO you are burning gasoline in a engine at 25% - 30% efficiency, to power an alternator and generate electricity at about 40-50% efficiency, to create hydrogen to burn in the car.
I completely understand that. But what if you could run an AFR of 25:1, 50:1, or 100:1 or leaner in a gasoline engine and still get complete combustion. You could practically eliminate the throttle valve and eliminate pumping losses through it. Slight amounts of hydrogen have the potential to aid spark ignited combustion to the point that ultra lean AFRs could be obtained and still be running a homogenous air/fuel mixture.

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
You never heard of propane, natural gas or alcohol intake fumigation?
Well its pretty cool.
If you are looking for a slight MPG boost less soot and for the engine oil to stay cleaner then propane is the way to go.
Natural gas is for stationary applications or when high pressure natural gas for on road applications is available.
Alcohol fumigation also known as a hot shot system is more for boosting power.
Then there is also water mist injection.
Besides that everything you need to know about water injection is here:
Water injection - EcoModder
Yes. Propane fumigation does seem like a better choice than HHO to me right now. For one, with HHO you are converting every gallon of fuel into much less fuel of a different form. It would be like buying a gallon of liquid hydrogen for about 10 times or more the price of a gallon of gasoline. A gallon of liquid propane costs about the same as a gallon of gasoline or diesel and has close to the same energy density too.

I'll still have to research propane. The question that comes immediately to mind is how well will propane ignite and burn at really lean AFR's?
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