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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
I said EV's have zero regular maintenance costs. And ALL vehicle have tires and wipers, etc. - so how does that matter to this discussion?
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It matters when people claim that EVs are zero maintenance (or nearly so), glossing over the fact that there are a lot of common items that will need maintenance.
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So, you claim they are moving (even though they are not) because they wear out?
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No, I am saying that they are maintenance items because they wear, and - like it or not - that wear is due to the movement of electrons.
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Electrons are not "moving parts"; no matter how much you want them to be.
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Electrons do move, that's basic physics. And various ions do move in batteries.
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If you can even count all the moving parts in an ICE, then I think you will have to concede that EV's are MUCH easier to maintain, and understand that they will last MUCH longer.
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Have you counted all the individual cells in an EV battery pack? (7104 in a Tesla 84 KWh pack, per this:
https://electrek.co/2016/02/03/tesla...r-down-85-kwh/ ) Each one is subject to 'wear' (I admit that's not a precise term, but the problem is the language not having a 1:1 relationship to reality), and is a failure point.
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Batteries will last as long as a typical ICE and/or it's transmission. Individual cells and/or modules can be replaced.
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Tell this to someone who hasn't been driving a 2000 Insight for the last 13 years or so. (And whose other vehicle isn't a 1988 model.) When I first bought it, I could use most of the battery capacity (per the gauge) in hill climbing &c. Now (and despite rebalancing &c every year or so) I can use barely 1/4 of the gauge capacity before the system either recals or throws an IMA fault. Which requires 'maintenance' of a sort: pry out the #18 fuse and wait for a system reset.