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Old 05-01-2017, 01:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I talked to a local plastics manufacturer who suggested using polycarb rather than acrylic because it's waaay more durable and easier to drill into. Hail damage is a strong consideration, as well as for liability reasons if the acrylic somehow cracks and pieces fly off the back onto following vehicles. The major downside of polycarbonate is that it is somewhat more of a process to heat-bend into shape. This is only because it has some moisture in it that will make poor bends look like they're 'blistering' as the water vapor tries to escape. The simple solution is to bake it first or leave it out in the sun over a black surface for a few hours to get the moisture out. It also gives off toxic fumes when laser-cut, if you care at all. Also, I learned that extruded acrylic sheet is not good for drilling into and doesn't heat-bend as well as cast acrylic sheet. But at the price point of cast acrylic sheet you might as well just go for polycarb. I was quoted $126 for a standard, uncut 48"x96"x1/8" sheet of clear polycarbonate, plus about $10 if I want some hue to it. I recommend getting smoked/greyed/bronzed to try to match your window tint (aesthetics), obfuscate UV yellowing, and to avoid constructing a mobile greenhouse. Also, the professional I talked to suggested taking advantage of the bendy material property of base sheet to avoid having to heat-bend each curve, as in some curves can be done by just warping it into form and bolting it down to the frame. Potentially these kinds of pre-loaded forces in the body of the shell could also add to its rigidity. I guess we'll find out how well all this works once I try it in the next couple weeks. I'm making an aerocap as my first ecomodding project, too, right after finals week is over (I'm a mechanical engineering major). I'd been intending to use a similar construction technique for a few weeks before I found this thread, except I definitely intend to use polycarbonate.

Why 3/4" rather than 1/2" conduit? What kind do you plan to use? EMT, IMT, or Rigid? Dirt cheap EMT really entices me but scares me since it's rolled not extruded tube. I'd be afraid it would buckle, and not being threaded also worries me.

The red curve in the above image appears to refer to the tangent curve from the plane of the roof to the approximate intersection of the 8° line with the plane of the tailgate.
I don't understand why 8° is being suggested, other than for alleged cargo volume improvement and less lift. The heresy of suggesting something other than 12° like the Holy Theses have commanded! Also imo it's prettier to have the trailing edge of the shell as vertically close to the top of the tailgate as possible unless you intend to have an eave/overhang. With other opaque projects, like with the infamous, beautiful, Wooden Taco Topper, the slope was pretty low presumably so that the driver could still see out the window at the boat's keel, but obviously that doesn't apply to us.

Personally, I'm going with the "Holy 12°" for mine. I don't intend to hijack this thread with discussion about my personal project, because I intend to make my own thread once I start construction. Briefly, I've already made a quick 3d sketch in Autodesk Inventor (my go-to CAD), and the 12° works well for me because I don't care about rear lift since my beloved '06 Ridgeline is FWD over ~15mph (pls do not pollute this thread with criticism of my choice of quality utilitarian vehicle - that dead horse belongs on ridgelineownersclub.com - and it was inexpensive after all the fanboys upgraded to the 2017 remake... so far with my driving style and no mods I get ~20mpg for both city and highway but I don't doubt both will increase 3-6mpg by the time I'm done with all my planned mods). Also, since my box walls are so tall, there is only 1.5" between the lowest point of my aerocap's trailing edge and the rear point of the box walls, while the widest point, over the shorter tailgate (the engineers assumed everyone would get a tanoe), it has like a 3.5" gap, which I've obfuscated by including a slight Kamm-ish overhang. The quick model I made is compound sloping on the sides as well, just because that's what is intuitive to match the sides of the RL's box. So far the slopes are straight lines rather than convex because it would be easiest to construct and I've yet to be convinced of a significant advantage of either convex or concave other than following those damn teardrop templates to the T or for aero-aesthetic. Same goes for the corners joining the top sheet to the side sheets, whether I should leave them angular for easy fabrication and intentional flow separation or to gently round them for that dubious aero aesthetic that would take many hours with a heat gun and potentially 'blister' the polycarb. I can't yet post links to my little photobucket, but it's under the same username, if anyone's curious.

Again, I don't want to hijack this thread so please answer in the context of OP's project
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