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Old 07-23-2017, 11:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by gumby79 View Post
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In Europe your insurance coveret the "leagal "trailing accident. In the us you broke the rules accepting full responsibility for your illegal choices and your ins gos up, Of the old man that you bump has a heart attack it could be murder charges. With the same car made for different markets, aka different specifications.
Duse the EU require proof of concept on tow rating?or is it a magic number pulled from a hat like the US used to be?
Can an EU prius pass the SAE J 2807?

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How much was that load under the rating , that inspired you to rebuild your trailer with brakes this time.
. If any I'd say the magic rating number from the hat was high by the new standard. I think the SAE J2807 is more to force honesty out of the manufacturer. No more selling a truck with a 5/10,000lbs rating tow package that is only leagal for 1499lbs. Or needs a bigger radiator, trans cooler,etc
J2807 provides cover for funneling Americans into incredibly profitable pickup trucks.

It ignores the majority of vehicles (no rating or only nominal: not tested), and revises use of WD hitches by stretching definitions of what is safe. This, despite throwing out the door more than fifty years verified experience since Bundorf with hundreds of thousands of users and many millions of miles.

Then are unrealistic tests. Davis Dam Grade. Whoopee! One lives in such a place, one is already aware of vehicle shortcomings in this regard. Unrealistic as it (they) do not describe typical American commuter needs. Etc

Nor is their room for aerodynamic trailers. Weight is single consideration. Yet once to cruise speed, weight means little.

For a contractor or rancher already planning use of a pickup, it's sorta okay.

For car owners, worthless and retrograde.

A pickup is pretty well the most dangerous vehicle type by design. Unbalanced and unstable.

In towing, its singular advantage MAY be larger engine coolant systems. For a car with the same engine, one simply climbs the same grade more slowly. Whoopee! Etc.

Around the world is the idea that the tow vehicle should weigh as much or more than the trailer. The TV rear tire contact patch adhesion is at stake. Counterforce to a snaking trailer.

The advent of electronic trailer anti-sway does most of what's needed for occasional towing "stability".

Many vehicles are adequate tow vehicles.

Don't anyone believe that J2807 is done to increase safety. Protection of profits trumps all else.

All this said, someone towing regularly needs to do homework to get best results.

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