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Old 08-05-2017, 01:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post
I beg to differ. The ones I've had personal experience with were good cars, one of them might even qualify as great.
The 'problem' with the Taurus and other full size vehicles like that is that the basic sedan design comes from the 1950's.

Just great for long distance cruising or driving on country roads (dirt included) that aren't that great.

Influenced by the Renault Scenic in Europe and Japanese Vans (can't count how many models there would be), interior space has been maxxed out.

So in Europe, it's the German C-MAX that is the equivalent large vehicle:



It's optimised for interior space, comfort and fuel economy.

Not as good for long trips or bumpy roads as they are pretty much a city car but that's where most live.

BMW, Mercedes, GM have all moved to the box-car format for this size of vehicle. The large format sedan is obscolete in many ways.
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2003 Renault Scenic - 30% more power with no loss in fuel economy.
1991 Toyota GT4 - more economical before ST215W engine-swap.
previous: Water-Injected Mitsubishi ~33% improved.
future - probably a Prius
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