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Originally Posted by RustyLugNut
Though I may differ with Oil Pan 4 about global warming, I agree with him that much of it is hysteria. It is very evident the planet is warming. 97% of scientists agree with this. What they don't tell you is how many of these same scientists disagree as to the "why" of global warming.
The Paris agreement seeks to lock the world's industrial societies into a multi-trillion dollar (euro ) solution to stop global warming when it ignores many other inputs into the equation.
I have mentioned in other posts how the oceans act as a tremendous buffer to absorb CO2 and sequester it. The Cliffs of Dover are a testament to some of that ability. We always look to the terrestrial forests and forget the fecund biosphere that resides in the first few meters of the oceans as well as on it's floor. Many areas of our oceans are not healthy. The Paris Agreement ignores this man made input. We may do better to study our effects on oceans and their ability to absorb CO2.
The Paris Agreement also ignores Albedo. Our cities and towns change the environment around them by the simple fact our constructs absorb the sun's output and turn it into heat, for the most part. Our farming and forestry practices, though often seen as insignificant to our warming trend, have impactful effects on albedo. We should study these effects more thoroughly.
There are more areas that need study and are getting far less funding and scrutiny because they are not directly CO2 related.
We just may concentrate on industrial and transportation cuts in CO2 and find out it was only a small part of the equation and we have doomed ourselves and following generations to a financial burden that we needed not have carried.
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Recent study showed that the rainforests have atrophied to the point that many of them are not a buffer against CO2 anymore. In fact, they are increasing their CO2 output as they shrink.
The devil is in the north. The warming temperatures are releasing methane from the tundra, which will be inflating temperatures by at least 1 degree Celsius every century (the CO2 warming studies aren't even accounting for this). The population is increasing... without control measures, it will continue to grow. Look at the USA: its population continues to burgeon by 10% decade over decade. By end of the century we'll have over 600 million people here, all enjoying high living standards. And all those people will be creating CO2... know how many full grown trees it takes to supply a human with enough oxygen for a year? 400.
You say experts disagree? Numbers dude... what are the statistics of these people and what are their comparative reputations? Actually, you just admitted that you're not informed on the subject and can't debate it. So be quiet, eh?
I'm not going to demand that you believe we're flooding the world... that's pointless if you're controlled by motivated thinking... but you are gonna have to fork over tax dollars to get the west subsidized into electric vehicles or hydrogen or something. That my friends and I do require of you. And if we don't, the Chinese and Indonesians will because they will have nothing but the hills left if we continue down this self-destructive path (don't try to say that's "thousands of years" off... I've seen the maps... it's hundreds at the latest).