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Now I've successfully steered the conversation towards something interesting . 
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What do you mean, I've had to drag you kicking and screaming.... 
THE GEOMETRY OF MEANING
A Selected Excerpt
REFLEXIVE UNIVERSE
A Selected Excerpt
Both by Arthur M. Young, co-inventor of the Bell helicopter and a member of the mysterious Council of Nine.
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.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
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.Because much of what is in the published literature is nonsense,
and much of what isn’t nonsense is not in the scientific literature.
-- Sabine Hossenfelder
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