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Old 01-06-2018, 02:20 PM   #729 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sendler View Post
Certainly you guys don't think that 2% growth of GDP, population, food production, energy consumption, mineral consumption, ect, can go on much longer?
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As a matter of fact, even if 1% degrowth could begin today (which it can't without upending everthing) humans will still find total energy which is primarily from fossil fuels, and essential minerals such as Phosphorous for articial fertilizer slipping out of reach in the next 50 years.
Peak population will occur just as peak oil will occur. Better for both of these to occur gradually rather than suddenly, which thankfully is naturally what will happen. GDP (or more accurately, resource consumption) will decline as population declines.

The opposite problem of a population reduction rate will eventually occur within my lifetime (likely end), and people will have to be incentivized to reproduce. The trend towards not having children, or having children later in life, and the decline in marriage will decrease the population, especially as men increasingly find alternative outlets for their sexual energy (VR porn, sexbots), and feminism perpetuates the idea that women are the same as men, and therefore have no use of their affection.

We'll find ways to continue living better than previous generations through technology. Sophisticated and cheap robotics may allow us to vastly reduce reliance on pesticides, for instance. There is already a laser/camera combo capable of identifying mosquitos and zapping them, for instance. Get a few drones to patrol a field and kill what is not crop.

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Certainly don't.
Bucky is absolutely right, and a few will be all that is needed to spoil it for the many. As individuals continue to grow in destructive power and anonymity, the consequences of their psychopathy will have increasingly devastating results.
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