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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
Huh? We understand the basics very well indeed, and we continue to learn. That is how science works.
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Indeed. People will point to climate models not being perfect. No model is ever really perfect. But you don't need a perfect computer model to tell you that when your car hits a brick wall, something will break.
And these models are not static. The fact that we keep working in correction factors and revising models means that scientists are taking this seriously, and that they do take into account factors that deniers keep saying they DON'T.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/in-depth...climate-models
Again, a work in progress. But no matter what level of complexity you model at, and no matter how many additional factors are added in, they all agree that the Earth is warming and that this is a continuing trend.
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4
Since the AGW community is the most cherry picking of cherry pickers to ever pick cherries.
NOAA just got caught cherry picking warmer temperature data last month.
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[citation needed]
2017 was the second hottest year on record. (and the warmest with NO El Nino. 2016 was a record El Nino year.)
Several different organizations track global temperatures. And all show the same general trend.
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Originally Posted by RustyLugNut
Whether (weather) the globe is warming or not, we have to end the use of fossil fuels if man is to move forward.
The Paris Agreements do little to mitigate the output of CO2 and cripples the world economies in the process. Better to use our industrial output to find the solution to the next industrial age. That solution is nuclear power.
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See, that's the debate we should be having in this thread.
I'm of two minds about it. Basic physics and economics say mitigation/elimination is impossible without economic upheaval.
But there have been some encouraging advancements in carbon sequestration.
That said, it often feels like the task is akin to pissing into the wind with your mouth open...