[gumby79]

For those concerned about the math the ROI.
Let's do the math for a full-on race engine$10-80k+ and then subtract the difference in price for what this gentleman is trying to do now we had a positive Roi before he's even spent a penny the pieces and parts to install the Ecotec or any of the other moderns are going to far exceed the cost of what this man plans so it's going to take even longer than the impossible Roi you guys have already pointed out in order for the modern downsize to pan out. Not everyone is willing to ditch a metal car for a plastic toy that is just as heavy if not heavier than the old clunker.

Originally Posted by Phoenix'97

I told you, engine swapping is out of the question!

This has NOTHING TO DO with bragging rights as far as horsepower! It has EVERYTHING to do with tailoring my car to my driving style and saving more money by using an engine I already have versus transplanting another engine and spending thousands more for accompanying transmission and computer and other accessories, to get it to work right with my factory components.

Not to mention you have to go to the New York version of C.A.R.B.and get your transplant certified that you did it right. This is not cheap.
I don't mean to be picking at anybody but it sure seems like you guys would much rather he didn't consult anything on ecomodder and just built to Power House. Any reduction in harm to the ecosystem is a gain. Any reduction in fuel consumed is a gain. He could always just do a normal rebuild when this motor wears out and get the same as he had before. Instead he's trying to improve upon what he already has and you guys are telling him shame for trying to improve trying to improve is the spirit of ecomodder.
On the 79 Chevy in my signature the only thing that was stock where the valves the heads the block and the crank still Pass California emissions ran cleaner with an Edelbrock 1405 carburetor PCV valve Factory style air cleaner with the heat riser (off a 94 TBI 454 because it had a mechanical thermostat instead of a vacuum actuated thermostat )that was my complete list of emissions requirements three items heavy duty and Federal all the other crap was optional( as in some Vehicles had it some didn't mying didn't have a sticker stating what was required so it wasn't required due to a salvage title and Body Change that didn't match year make, only model pick up. This truck was almost flagged for running to clean the machine thought I was cheating plugging in a Geo Metro in place of my V8. The place I worked at the time was a smog inspection facility the boss wanted to know how much cleaner would my truck run with all the extra garbage on it so we installed and it almost failed the test because it was that much dirtier having all brand new emissions equipment on it. Just because it was thought to be a good idea does not make it a good idea. The emissions compliance has killed the era of the dreamer and the Builder because you don't turn wrenches or make improvements on cars you buy another one when this one wears out.

You could probably go through the local emissions test without telling them that you're not running the right stuff so long as it looks right from the outside and you don't run so clean that the machine says you're cheating as in the technician didn't put the probe in. Then you're probably golden
In regards to emissions equipment in place testing this was attempted in California back in the early 2000s at which point they threatened the smog Tech with $100,000personal fine the business the tech worked for with a $250,000 fine and of course the driver for $100,000 if at a random roadside inspection they found you were missing any emissions equipment no sniff test involved Purely is the part in place inspection this was overturned as the smog Tech has no control over whether or not Joe public goes home after his picture perfect emissions test and places that picture perfect emissions engine on the stand for another 2 years putting his Blown Alcohol engine back in his street car. Growing up I knew several individuals who had one engine that got smog tested 5 to 6 times a year different car every test but that's what it was built for it was a test mule there's 10 to 12 cars had race engines in them it was kind of like a co-op you pay the dude some money you borrow his motor you go test to come back to his house you put your motor back in.
Then there's always just register in a county that doesn't have emissions Mariposa county California has 10 to 15 cars per person including minors this county is exempt from emissions testing because what will pass on this side of town won't pass on that side of town due to altitude changes in excess of 3000 feet starting at 3000 and going up to 8 or 9,000 feet