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Old 04-04-2018, 05:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Not killing animals for food makes sense to me. Not sucking petroleum out of the earth and then burning it also seems logical, but nobody likes people who say they are better than others.

Be like me! Don't tell anyone you are better than them, let that be your secret! :P
I understand the philosophy of veganism, and it doesn't bother me that people practice it. I'm not even bothered by people telling me I should also be vegan.

Arguments that it is murder don't follow, although I'm willing to entertain the discussion. Animals that hunt other animals for food don't murder them, they kill them, which is the way nature works. Our criminal system doesn't even prosecute on behalf of the victim, but instead on behalf of itself (The State of California vs *suspect's name*). The state is deprived of a person in their care when a person is murdered, so it seeks retribution and restitution from the offender. Animals have no such concept or awareness.

No doubt that anyone with an opinion differing from my own has a differing philosophical view, which is fine. The only time this becomes a problem is when someone is using virtue signaling to enhance their group standing with the intent of motivating that group to action against the person that does not hold that value.

Unfortunately our culture seeks to be as offended as possible as a means to create a divide and push conflict. Somehow being offended is considered a virtue, and thin skin a sign of strength of character.

Vegetarianism makes sense as it takes less land to produce sufficient food for people (it's more efficient). Much of the world lives on a diet of rice and beans, which I suppose I could tolerate if I had to. I'm more of a "eat to live" rather than "live to eat" type anyhow.

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