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Old 05-25-2018, 08:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
twj347
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Western Canada
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2015 WRX - '15 Subaru WRX
90 day: 30.63 mpg (US)

2008 Suzuki SV650SA - '08 Suzuki SV650SA
90 day: 60.81 mpg (US)
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Originally Posted by California98Civic View Post
I don't see the major fuel economy gains, though, unless it is just by getting into closed loop sooner.
It's not just about getting into closed loop faster. Modern cars are tuned to intentionally waste a bunch of extra fuel in order to heat the cat up faster.

Here are the things the stock tune on my Subaru does to (presumably) heat the cat faster:
- Idles in stratified fueling mode up to coolant temps of 60C (increasing fuel use by at least 50% at idle)
- Retards ignition timing for the first 3 minutes after engine start.
- Retards exhaust cam timing by 20 to 50 degrees until the coolant temperature is above 50C.
- 1800rpm idle speed up to coolant temps of 40C, and even for a while after hot starts.

I've pretty much tuned all these things out, with great benefits to short-trip fuel economy. They don't affect driveability. I can only assume the engine is tuned like this to heat up the cat quickly for regulatory reasons. I'd be surprised if overall NOx emissions were even reduced much.
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Last edited by twj347; 05-25-2018 at 09:15 PM.. Reason: I do what I want
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