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Old 05-30-2018, 04:17 PM   #1888 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sendler View Post
It still takes an unrealistic quantity of rebuildables to replace all primary energy even if you could eliminate the need for storage with a world wide, ocean and continent spanning high voltage grid. 1.5TW is required just for the current USA consumption.
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130,000 square miles of area, 1.000.000 2.5MW class wind turbines, and 50,000 SolarStar class grid scale solar farms, and 70,000,000 rooftop solar systems, and a 4% increase in hydro with the new capacity capable to pump store. And an unrealistic quantity of this as split Hydrogen with a new fleet pf long haul transport.
Yes, the numbers are staggering!
From Lomberg:
'...the greenhouse effect is really quite simple and entirely uncontroversial.' P.259
'About 98 percent of the extra CO2 comes from...oil,coal,and gas...'p.260
'...anthropogenic greenhouse effect is also fairly uncontroversial.'p.260
'Solar...probably competitive by 2051.'p.136 (it's competitive in 2018)
'...it is estimated that the price of renewable energy will fall faster than the price for conventional energy.' p.132
He says that we're going renewable,it's just a matter of when.(I'll get that citation soon.)
If it's ever agreed that we're going to end CO2 emissions and remove some of the extant CO2 from the atmosphere,then we are talking about a carbon-free grid.
The oil,gas,and coal can't be combusted.
It's political suicide to even broach the topic,so as with President George Herbert Walker Bush's National Energy Policy,there probably won't be any policy.We'll just leave it to the market to sort it our for us.
What I hear from Lomberg's 2001,comments though,is that as renewables reach competitive pricing,the days of internal combustion will quite naturally,over time,fade into the dustbin of history.It's a timing issue as Lomberg points out.
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