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Old 05-30-2018, 06:59 PM   #63 (permalink)
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My information was out of date and judging by what's still being sold to consumers still very much relevant. You talking about LEDs that directly produce white light, these appear to be uncommon at most, you talk about them as if that is the only way they have ever been made.

I have already tested rotery meters and they do read VA. If you tested it you would know too. The digital ones appear that they are programmed to read anything greater than 0.8 to 0.85 as their own units. Then depending on the utility they set the meters to collect low power factor watts. This is based on my own observation of the meter and the bill that comes in.

T5 technology kind of peaked in the mid 2000s. I only pick T5 because that is most of what I use, most LEDs weren't even around. I didn't cherry pick these LEDs I use for my examples, they are what's on the shelf at the local national chain home goods and hardware store that has several thousand store locations all across the county, with items easily accessible by 100 million or so people. I already said there are LEDs on the shelf that are at least as efficient as the T5 system but almost no one buys them because they are more than double the price.
So we know what's going to happen when super high efficiency higher priced LEDs hit the store shelves, they are going to sit there, collect dust, sit there some more, get moved around and eventually end up on the mark down junk pile being sold at a loss.

Plus I am preparing as much as possible to go off grid, any low power factor penalties are fully realized when you generate your own power.
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