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Old 09-20-2018, 10:03 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Some argue that Musk is still trying to figure out how to make a car! :P

You can purchase a 2019 Renault Leaf for $37,095 with a 151-mile range or a 2019 Model 3 for $35,000 with a 220-mile range, or $44,000 with a 310-mile range. Of course, if you add options besides the battery it can cost $86,000, and CNN points out that you can purchase a Maserati for less.

I added every option on the Leaf and it only ran up to $38,269, which is great as long as you want black cloth seats, because that was the only option.
The new 2018 Nissan Leaf with a 150 mile range starts at $30,000. I have no idea where you are getting $37K.

You cannot buy a new Tesla for less than $50,000 today. Musk has promised, sometime in the future, to sell a $35,000 Model 3. Of course this won't be until after the Federal tax credit expires.

I don't waste money on new cars so I will only be looking at the used market when the lease on my Spark EV expires next year. Most likely I'll purchase a 2013-2015 Leaf for about $10K.

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Nissan is still making EVs with no active thermal management; a decision I believe they will come to regret. If GM designed active cooling for their very low volume, and relatively low capacity Spark EV, and given the fiasco they've had with warranty claims in hot climates, you'd think it prudent to take better care of the most expensive part of the vehicle.

Do we need Nissan?
No we don't need Nissan. The world has too many auto brands and they will continue to consolidate over the years. Nissan happened to lead the world will a practical and affordable EV.

Time will tell on whether Nissan's decision to save on the battery pack and pay warranty claims pays off. In most areas the Leaf's battery does just fine and the simplicity of the pack allows them to sell a replacement for $5500. (The sales volume of the Leaf helps too) A replacement pack for my Spark EV is $22,000.

That replacement pack for $5500 with an new 8 year warranty has moved the Leaf to the top of my list for my next vehicle.

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