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Old 11-07-2018, 11:04 AM   #3616 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
we use fossil fuels in absolutely everything, and it's so vital to every single aspect of our lives,
There needs to be more public education about embodied energy so that the general population can understand that it is not currently an option to just leave it in the ground. There is no good or service in today's world that does not first need a big energy input. The vast majority of people, including scientists, are unaware of this. And have also been greenwashed by intentional conflation of the terms "energy" and "power" with electricity. Which is only 20% of world primary energy. And green magazine articles also intentionally mislead by stating increases in the build out of "installed capacity" and never mention capacity factor of actual production. Which for Germany's solar averages 11%.
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Without the correct information, the general public cannot make wise decisions about how to proceed.
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
I'm more worried about the quadrupling to 10x-ing of price of liquid fuels in my life time.

The demand is going through the roof because of china and the stuff is getting harder and harder to find and get.
And India, Indonesia, Africa. Every underdeveloped person wants to rise up through increased energy consumption. And all of the developed world is stuck in a growth based economic system which also demands more energy to keep the plates spinning.
 
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