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Old 12-12-2018, 12:46 PM   #4029 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sendler View Post
A healthy person can do .6kWH of physical work per 8 hour work day. We replaced human slaves with fossil slaves. World average is 50 fossil slaves standing behind each person. USA people have 200 each.
I remember you saying that, and I quote you in another forum to give people a sense of the problem. Those that think all we need to do is drive EVs and switch to LED bulbs are not comprehending the scope of the problem.

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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
You've just purchased a Model T Ford.
There are no paved roads.
There's no such thing as a gasoline filling station.
There is nothing to suggest that automobiles will achieve any market penetration in the transportation sector.
None of these huge problems have been resolved.
Me and Sendler aren't advocates for oil, as far as I can tell. I'm a truth seeker, and the truth right now is that most all of the world's wealth is attributable to fossil fuels, and transitioning away is going to be slow going, especially at first. You'll find no posts by me advocating for lower efficiency, or burning fossil fuels needlessly, or denying the enormous amounts of energy the sun provides.

People who think it can be done in 20 years don't understand the magnitude of the problem. To transition most energy consuming things to electricity, and transition electricity production to clean plants is a doozy of a problem, especially considering nobody is even testing new nuclear reactor designs. Instead we're spending time and money deploying solar and wind, which isn't even keeping up with the growth in energy, let alone begin replacing existing demand.

It's entirely pointless to fight human nature. We'll continue to burn fossil fuels until alternatives are cheaper. The argument that renewables are cheaper, or that they are cheaper when factoring in externalities is debunked. If utilizing fossil fuels was bad for humans, then we would see declining life expectancy, declining population, declining wealth per capita, declining health... when in fact the opposite is true.
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