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Old 01-05-2019, 03:55 PM   #4414 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
This number game,quasi-religious devotion to propagating and perpetuating the dogma of carbonphilia,insinuating against any who dare dissent,isn't helping the situation.
Neither will the sappy and unrealistic over optimism for wind and solar that is prevalent in the media. My comment to you was in response to your stated implication that fosil fuel consumption continues primarily due to rich corporations controlling against the "decision" to just leave it in the ground. Which is completely untrue. The source of energy production is not just a matter of decision. The general public needs a functioning economy so there are jobs that pay them money so that they can live.
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Energy and economy are correlated at nearly 1:1.
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Fossil fuels continue as much as are necessary, along with other forms of energy production, to maintain the modern debt based economy from crashing.
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The scale of energy that is currently needed to keep from a crash is completely unfathomable to most people. It is only through analysis of the data that we can make wise decisions as to what challenges are comming at us and how best to proceed. As an example of scale it is useful to look at Germany and realize that even as a world leader in percentage of build out and efficiency improvement, they have as yet replaced only 5% of their energy consumption with wind and solar.
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Wind, solar and batteries will help extend fossil fuels but oil will start leaving us long before we are ready to leave it. There is a big reduction in energy availabilty coming in the next three decades. The major aspect of adaptation will have to be social. We can ramp down intentionally or suffer a big stair step. Sappy optimism for rebuildable electricity will foster complacency. We must embrace a more accurate systems view.
 
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