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Old 01-23-2019, 12:47 PM   #4598 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
How much were the oceans warming before the new instrumentation was added?

The United States has land falling hurricane data going back to 1885.
Of course the believers want to throw out this data because it doesn't fit their predetermined out come.
The change is to the quantity and quality of the data. The ocean is warming - and we now have a more accurate understanding of how much.

We now have much more data and much better data - on lots of things; including the GRACE satellites (for measuring drought and ice depth and ocean levels). We have a way to look directly at the sun's output. As we learn more, we have a more accurate understanding of how much the climate is changing, and why.

No comment on you straw man argument. It is you who are ignoring facts. Science - BY DEFINITION - takes all known data into account. Science and all the data, indicate that human activity is largely causing the climate to change, at this time - and as we learn more, we see that the rate of warming is more rapid than we thought, when we had less accurate data.
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