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Originally Posted by RedDevil
I had to get back to this:
Because it does not work like that.
First and for all, it is unlikely the pack would degrade that far. Most Model S or X packs still have way more capacity than just 80% after 300,000 miles. The Model 3 packs are supposed to be superior.
But let's assume it does indeed degrade to 80%.
If the battery degrades to 80% the new range of the Model 3 with standard battery is down from the 220 miles which it had when it was new to probably about 213 miles.
Because the '220 mile' standard range battery and the 264 mile midrange battery are the same, except for software limiting the range of the standard one.
In practical sense the standard battery's 220 mile range should never deteriorate until the battery is on the verge of collapse, if that ever happens.
Some users speculate about the price tag or the timescale on which Tesla will release the extra capacity to Standard range owners...
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That's interesting... why make a lower range model with the same battery?
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Originally Posted by IamIan
Why waste the extra 25 gallons in the truck .. take your lunch box in an Insight and go 700+ miles on just ~10 Gallons 
The one other thing I didn't notice mentioned about a vehicle fire comparison .. is just simple energy .. it is after all , the definition of the ability to do work .. any kind of work you like to do requires some amount of energy to do it .. and the more energy you have , then the more work you can do .. be it move a car .. or burn something to ash .. and because of the horribly low conversion efficiency from fuel to shaft of the ICE vehicles , it is very common for them to carry with them many many times more energy .. the ~35 Gallons mentioned above is about ~1200 kwh of flammable chemical energy (depending on the type) .. it would take about ~10 fully charged high range Teslas to have enough energy to create as much of a fire/heat/etc as that 1 ICE vehicles 35 gallons .. it would be more likely for any one vehicle .. such as one with that one 35 gallon ~1200 kwh to have an issue , than it would be to simultaneously have 10 vehicles in the same place, just to get the same ~1200kwh of energy to do the same work. |
That's a good point. And I was talking about diesel fuel, so it would be a little bit more energy. Now what we need is good comparable data on survival rates in these fires and how often they occur.