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Old 03-03-2019, 12:35 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Do you have a source for that info on the standard range using the midrange pack?

Auto manufacturers have long meetings and argue about saving 2 cents on a vehicle, so spending $1000 extra per vehicle is not to be taken lightly.
The devil is always that you read it, but there's more to read, then looking it back up a day later it's hard to find back.

Reddit calls it a theory for the 'standard plus' battery: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...oftwarenerfed/

Elon Musk seems to have hinted a cost reduced lighter battery pack:
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“We came up with a new design that achieves the same outcome, that’s actually lighter, better, cheaper and we will be introducing that around the end of this year – probably reach volume production on that in Q1 or something. That will make the car lighter, better, and cheaper and achieve a higher range.”
But it could still mean anything.
InsideEVs take last year: https://insideevs.com/deep-dive-tesl...-model-3-pack/. But even then, it was thought possible that it would just be either a depopulated (less cells) or even a software limited midrange pack.

So looking back I cannot provide evidence the Standard range does indeed have the same battery as the midrange.
I assume Tesla's battery electronics are sophisticated enough to be able to work with or be adapted for different pack sizes, so no problem there. And if the pack just uses the same shells but fewer cells the production line argument drops away too. Using less cells also means more packs can be made so more cars could be sold, or the Power Walls could finally get bthe cells they've been waiting for.
All arguments in favor of a smaller range.

But then there's the Standard Plus. Would that have the same pack with just a few extra cells? Or would that truly be a midrange pack? If so, would Tesla make even less on that because it is only $2,000 extra but has more trim than the standard range?
And why did all the other options get so much cheaper? If a battery shortage is holding back production that does not seem smart. I know trim costs less than it shows in the shop, but still you do get a lot more for not that much money. So why did they bring the higher versions down? It should not matter that much? And many would still pay the higher price, so that's a pure loss.

Tesla's strategy hints that they rather not sell the Standard but have you upgrade to the higher range versions. It only makes sense if the Standard version really isn't much cheaper to build.
So while I can't find what I read earlier nor prove in any other way that the battery is a midrange, I still think it likely is.
But if not, my apologies.

Guess we'll find out within a few weeks when the first Standard model 3 gets torn apart.

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