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Old 03-07-2019, 11:24 PM   #52 (permalink)
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And some leftwings will tell you that drug users have the holly right to use any drugs they wish, that's their decision, and that you must pay for the medical care and homecare of them. Some even will tell you to pay for medical facilities whre they came in to use drugs while a doctor and nurse are available in case of he need medical attendion due the effects of drug, overdoses risk etc...
I'm pro help īpeople, but against spent money if they refuse left away the things that destroy thenself, and off course I refuse to accept the state to give them what leaft thenselves in disgrace.

No kiding, I saw a TV News showing a center for drug users came in and use drugs while a health professionals was present to help in any problem. All with public money. Don't remamber if was in San Francisco or in some european country.

Abortion to them it's another holly right, even after 3 or 4 months, but esterilization of people in these conditions, people who usualy get pregnant and generates babies with neural problems (due drugs during pregnancy) it's a abomination.
In this particular point uncle Jordan is right when he says the leftwing don't want to see the responsability people must have.

On Brazil minimal wage increased a bit in last 18 years, but here people to have some decency needs to pay for health (since public health it's a mess), needs to pay for security or security system or neighboorhood less dangerous, and needs to pay for schools, since public schools are horrible.
So, let's supose in a european contry or scandinavian country the minimal wage can't pay for private schools and private health for a family of 4 people, since private services are expansive there. But the difference to Brazil it's giant, since in such countries the public services, schools, security it's usually very good and people can spent their money in other things, to make their life more confortable and pleasant.
USA in these terms it's between Brazil and European countries with good public services. USA scholl are not very good, and health system also not very good. Security varies from state tostate, and in some cases, some cities as as violent as some cities on Brazil.

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I've got lots of personal examples of people who were poor because of their poor decisions, not because of their poor circumstances. A coworker I knew made twice as much money as me, and was a single guy living in a single-bed apartment. He'd sometimes ask to borrow money to pay rent because he is poor at managing his money. He would spend everything, not saving for any unexpected event such as car problems.

My cousin received a windfall of money on 2 occasions ($60k and $100k+). He was broke inside of 3 months when he got the $60k. Prior to that, he had worked 2 years as a cook. After that he was on the streets. Then he inherited $100k+ and was broke within about 4 months. Started doing meth, lost what little mental capacity he had. Died last year at 44.

People in the US are just as insane as anywhere else. They will say that minimum wage isn't a "living wage". First, minimum wage was never intended to be a living wage; it was intended to get new workers foot into the workplace. Second, I could raise a family on minimum wage. It wouldn't be extravagant, but it would be a living wage. In the US, you won't be stuck with minimum wage for long if you aren't an idiot or lazy.

That isn't to say those at the lower ends of the economic spectrum are to blame; as genetics and environment are the only 2 things that affect a person's outcome, and neither are within their control.
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