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Old 03-27-2019, 02:46 PM   #5449 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
*In 2017,for domestic {{{energy}}} production,renewables exceeded natural gas condensates.
There was no arguing whether it could,or could not be done,but simply that it would wreck the economy.
"Renewables" including hydro (which has topped out decades ago and no one will let us build anymore) for ELECTRICITY production.
The words renewable electricity and the word energy are commonly erroneously conflated. Multiply electricity production 5x to get it's proportion of energy. The fact that big hydro is actually (foolishly) being lobbied to tear down rather than increase also makes lumping it into the word "renewables" misleading when the inference is that someone is referencing wind and solar build out.
The PROPOSED data on the new 12 MW wind turbine is vaporware. We must wait and see what the actual output over a year is.
Pollyanna optimism of wind and solar replacing all energy along with a complete electrification retrofit of all systems breeds complacency to undertake the real societal changes that are required for a controlled step back down toward sustainable levels.
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