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Hersbird · 06-08-2019, 04:34 PM

Well no matter how good the Tesla's drag might be, towing a travel trailer it will be equal to the F150 with the same trailer as the trailer will dictate. Also a 2.7 EcoBoost aluminum F150 is pretty light, I don't think the Tesla with that big of a battery will weigh that little (currently the lightest X is 200 pounds heavier than the heaviest 2.7). I also think the 2.7 EcoBoost with load has a better BFSC than a 528i completely unloaded. Then what if you used the new small diesel F150 as a comparison? Even better BFSC. You can get a nicely optioned 4x4 crew 2.7 EcoBoost for low $30's a good $15000 less but realistically more like 1/2 the price. If like all other things Tesla the insurance savings alone on the F150 will pay for at least 1/2 the gas an average driver will buy in the F150.

PS, I just looked up the weight of the Rivian and it's more than my 2001 4x4 2500hd Suburban! The Rivian is going to need to be classified as a 3/4 ton to have any usable payload rating.

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Hersbird Master EcoModder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 2,668 Dark Egg - '12 VW Touraeg Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,187 Times in 813 Posts	Well no matter how good the Tesla's drag might be, towing a travel trailer it will be equal to the F150 with the same trailer as the trailer will dictate. Also a 2.7 EcoBoost aluminum F150 is pretty light, I don't think the Tesla with that big of a battery will weigh that little (currently the lightest X is 200 pounds heavier than the heaviest 2.7). I also think the 2.7 EcoBoost with load has a better BFSC than a 528i completely unloaded. Then what if you used the new small diesel F150 as a comparison? Even better BFSC. You can get a nicely optioned 4x4 crew 2.7 EcoBoost for low $30's a good $15000 less but realistically more like 1/2 the price. If like all other things Tesla the insurance savings alone on the F150 will pay for at least 1/2 the gas an average driver will buy in the F150. PS, I just looked up the weight of the Rivian and it's more than my 2001 4x4 2500hd Suburban! The Rivian is going to need to be classified as a 3/4 ton to have any usable payload rating. Last edited by Hersbird; 06-08-2019 at 05:11 PM..