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Old 10-11-2019, 02:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy View Post
A very old link describes how some British engineers designed a sort of turbo generator that generates electricity from the turbo being spun by hot exhaust gases. They claimed up to 6kw of power available, although that number seems a bit stretched. Seems like a neat concept, but I see no instance of this having made it to production. The link to the original article in the site is dead.

https://www.greencarcongress.com/200..._exhaust_.html

Honda is either using, or will be using, a Rankine cycle system in their hybrids that follows a similar method by using exhaust gases to evaporate water and generate electricity through steam.

If we consider that the average ICE engine is 30% efficient, or perhaps 40% efficient if it's a lean burn Honda or Atkinson cycle car, then for every 5 hp the car generates, 7-12 hp is being wasted (5.2 - 8.9 kw).

Even if such a system is only 15% efficient, that's still around a kilowatt of power being generated. And that's at 5hp; at highway speed more power could be generated.

This electrical power could then be stored and used for a variety of purposes, from a constant electrical boost to an engine to storing the electricity in batteries for home use. This would allow a more practical use of the wasted energy than trying to use the direct heat from the exhaust - which contains many toxic chemicals and therefore shouldn't be used to heat a house or other building.

One also has to consider the cost of implementing such a system - are we talking about efficiency, or economy? There is a difference between the two. Economy has to take into consideration implementation cost.
Sorry I'm rushed these days, but the last big piston aircraft engine, the fabulous Napier Deltic, used the pistons as a gas generator, and took the propeller power off from the exhaust turbine. It got great mileage, but cost too much as jet turbine alloys improved.

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