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Old 01-26-2020, 11:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Getting rid of that mandate also kills retarded credits like what Honda gets for building pointless hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
There is no word yet on what happens to the credits system. Today there are credits for hydrogen fuel cells, EVs, stop-start systems, different A/C coolant, E85, etc. Mostly they are for features that improve fuel economy but don't show up in the official tests. However, that isn't where most credits come from.

The way NHTSA credits / fines work is this. If you exceed your CAFE standard in a year you bank credits that can be used in a later year that you miss the target or they can be sold to other manufacturers. This is to encourage automakers to implement new technology before it is required instead of waiting until it is needed to hit CAFE.

Honda's 2017 Fleet Performance:
Domestic cars: 43.6 Actual - 38.9 CAFE = 4.7 mpg ahead
Imported Cars: 45.0 Actual - 41.3 CAFE = 3.7 mpg ahead
Light Trucks: 33.2 Actual - 31.00 CAFE = 2.2 mpg ahead
Weighted average = 3.75 mpg above CAFE target

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Gas just needs to go back to 3.50 a gallon and that batteries included ram will get more popular.
That would help but isn't as effective as CAFE.

Passenger car CAFE went from 18 mpg in 1978 to 27.5 in 1990. It was frozen from 1990 to 2010. It went from 27.5 in 2010 to 38.5 in 2017. Average fleet fuel economy follows CAFE. It does not follow gas prices.



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