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Originally Posted by Grant-53
I look at this manifesto as having language and assumptions with a particular humanist flavor... Technology as material objects have no sense of morality. Economic and social goals that employ technology have moral implications.
I'd pointed to humanism at Permalink #17:

Humanism is a philosophical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively. The meaning of the term humanism has fluctuated according to the successive intellectual movements which have identified with it.[1] Generally, however, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of human freedom and progress. It views humans as solely responsible for the promotion and development of individuals and emphasizes a concern for man in relation to the world.[2]

I think the tension between individually and collectively is at play here. Critical Theory works for the collective, Synergetics for the individual.

The closest analog I see to Fuller's philosophy at the moment is Eric Weinstein's Unitary Geometry. But I don't see what, if any, common ground may exist between the two. Here's Eric Weinstein giving it his best shot with Joe Rogan: Eric Weinstein’s Controversial New Approach to Theoretical Physics

He resorts to sports analogies. 'The stands and the pitch' is parsable but doesn't convey the difference between 4 and 14 dimensions. Fuller would point out that it takes 6 (or 12) restraints to immobilize something in 'four dimensions'. I'd love top see a rap battle between the two of them. Best comment:
Fabian Duran 2 months ago
This is the layman’s explanation

Most physicists working on unification are trying to create a quantum version of general relativity, informed by the list of particles in the standard model of physics. Weinstein believes we should instead start with the basic geometric tools of general relativity and work at extending the equations in mathematically natural ways, without worrying whether they fit with the observable universe. Once you have such equations in hand, you can try to match them up with reality. At the heart of Weinstein’s theory is the “observerse”, a 14-dimensional space that contains our familiar four-dimensional world (three dimensions of space plus one of time). The extra dimensions arise naturally by extending the mathematics of the original four, which appear in general relativity as the diagonal entries in a four-by-four matrix, he says...
More to the point of the social implications of advanced technologies:
"The street finds its own uses for things."
William Gibson — Burning Chrome
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