Thread: Lift
View Single Post
Old 09-11-2020, 12:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
aerohead
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,883
Thanks: 23,957
Thanked 7,219 Times in 4,646 Posts
quick variations in lift

Quote:
Originally Posted by JulianEdgar View Post
As it happens, today Rob Palin (ex Tesla, Bentley and F1 aerodynamicist) has been in communication with me about lift (giving me feedback on that chapter in my book).

As always, what he has to say is fascinating. He states that one car company (that I am not going to name here) has these requirements:
  • Front coefficient of lift greater than rear coefficient of lift up to 15 degrees yaw
  • Actual forces need to be less than 10 per cent of each axle weight at top speed

He also emphasizes what I have been saying, in that steady state wind tunnel (and, he adds, short-run CFD) often doesn't capture the actual quick variations in lift. He writes:

In research I did back at MIRA, we saw easily 100% fluctuations in lift forces, on all manner of vehicles, with the associated spectrums varying wildly between vehicle shapes, and with individual modifications. A rear spoiler, for example, may have zero net effect on the mean lift, yet reduce the standard deviation of the forces away from that mean quite dramatically - and vice versa.

I just wish I'd had his feedback before I wrote my book, not afterwards!
Does that even matter if the vehicle's inertia, and suspension, dampen any actual physical excursions of the body?
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote