I missed some deals yesterday, but my back revolted, and I hardly cared about computing. Right now it looks like the best two options are the HP Ryzen 5 with nice graphics that I mentioned above, although I neglected to say that it is $450. The other is an
Asus i7 that otherwise has the same specification for $520.
According to userbenchmark.com the Ryzen 5 is newer and faster than the i7!
The good deal is no longer available, but Best Buy doesn't say so until you scroll down.
Once again I am doomed