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Old 12-14-2020, 08:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Downwash is not attached flow. It is symptomatic of flow separation. You'll get the highest drag, vortex-drag, plus a small, but very low pressure wake, and overall higher drag. To say otherwise is delusional. It may look like a duck, but it doesn't quack like a duck.

"Attached flow caused by vortices is still attached flow." I can't believe this is even contested or debated, the only place I have ever seen it said that it isn't is in aerohead posts.

Out of curiosity I searched ecomodder for attached flow and found a quote, basically the same debate

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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
Disagreement is healthy and I always learn.

Later saying...

With respect to the 30-degree fastback,flow will be attached along the centerline only,with attached longitudinal vortices on both sides.
So it seems in 2011, on a fastback the flow will be attached along the centreline, but also with attached vortices on both sides. Sounds pretty attached to me.

The same thread also discusses this chapter, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XEGZIZ5zhy4C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA115&redir_esc=y #v=onepage&q&f=false

aerohead said in that thread: "Once the tangent angle on the roofline exceeds 22-degrees(as measured against the horizon)the flow cannot remain attached." This picture (and many many others) says different Click image for larger version

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