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Old 01-03-2021, 04:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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@Ecky ah okay that's interesting, and actually kind of makes sense. AC uses quite a lot of power so I would expect the engine to open the throttle or IAC for that, but electrical loads are small enough they might just use a timing adjustment. The thinking is probably some combination of keeping the catalyst hot, smooth idle, and fast control, at the cost of a very small amount of fuel.

Timing retard is also used to intentionally limit torque by Porsche (if you look up one of their advertised hp/tq/rpm graphs, often there's a dead straight line for half the rev range, and the timing map shows decreasing advance), most likely to encourage buyers to spend more money on a higher end model On DBW throttle cars, the throttle is also used to cut torque. Pretty weird stuff.
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