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Old 04-24-2021, 12:26 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
Yes, it is disingenuous so start counting carbon emissions now and ignore 100 years of massive carbon use by rich countries. Carbon built-up in the atmosphere is cumulative.

Yes, it is disingenuous to tell people that are using 1/2 the carbon that you are using the you will not commit to carbon reduction unless they do the same.
The Chinese government is inferior in that it assumes omniscient and benevolent bureaucrats can understand enormously complex things and then formulate the best strategies.

We're in a cold war competition with several nations; China foremost. US history is chalk full of various moral failings and tragic blunders, but it has notable and unique successes. Demanding an the unconditional surrender of Japan and then allowing them to remain a sovereign nation is among those brilliant feats.

What I'm getting at is that if CO2 emissions is important enough to the major players of the world, they will need to cooperate on US terms. Unilateral decarbonization is at least as foolish as unilateral nuclear disarmament. Paris Accord type limp-wristed gentleman's agreements aren't going to cut it.

If CO2 emissions aren't worth threat of bloodshed, then how big of an issue is it? I'm not dismissing the issue as unimportant, and I'm not advocating for violence; but I am saying that there's a disconnect between the two. Ready, fire, aim is not the correct order of operations.
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