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Old 06-16-2021, 04:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AeroMcAeroFace View Post
at wind speed, the wings on the propeller are still moving, and like the sail on a tacking boat, still providing thrust.

It doesn't require over-unity, because essentially the energy is coming from the difference between air speed and ground speed.
The Second Law of thermodynamics doesn't allow for the energy transferred from the blades to the air to exceed the energy coming from the wheels and inertial/ momentum energy transfer from the vehicle/passenger.
The energy at the blade-air interface must be lower than that at the road-to-tire interface due to energy loss in the tire, gears, wheel bearings, lower sprocket, chain, upper sprocket, jack-shaft bearings, then the blades themselves.
Even if the blades were 100% efficient, there wouldn't be enough energy.
And a look at Abbott and Von Doenhoff's book, Theory of Wing Sections will disabuse you of any notion about high efficiencies under high lift conditions.
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