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Originally Posted by ksa8907
The only thing that matters for our civilization is technological advancement.
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The Ur-environmentalist proposed as a solution a Design Science Revolution.
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Design science revolution
R. Buckminster Fuller coined the term design science revolution to describe his proposed scientific and socio-economic revolution accomplished by shifting from "weaponry to livingry" through the application of what he called comprehensive anticipatory design science. His World Design Science Decade, proposed to the International Union of Architects in 1961, was an attempt to catalyze the revolution.
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Originally Posted by aerohead
3) It's impossible to argue that reducing carbon dioxide would be a 'driver' for an impotent AMOC when it is the causation of its impotency.
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And yet the journal Nature published a paper on 2022-0301 that makes that very argument. Since you obviously did't follow the link, here's the abstract:
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It is well established that a collapse or strong reduction of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) would substantially cool the northern high latitudes. Here we show that there is a possibility that such cooling could be amplified under deliberate CO2 removal and result in a temporary undershoot of a targeted temperature level. We find this behaviour in Earth system models that show a strong AMOC decline in response to anthropogenic forcing. Idealized simulations of CO2 removal with one of these models indicate that the timing of negative emissions relative to AMOC decline and recovery is key in setting the strength of the temporary cooling. We show that the pronounced temperature-fluctuations at high northern latitudes found in these simulations would entail considerable consequences for sea-ice and permafrost extent as well as for high latitude ecosystems.
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4) Without anthropogenic climate change, we were guaranteed many billions of years to address our future.
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Now that is one bold claim.