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The "credit" is a wealth transfer to automotive manufacturers. When a credit is available, the manufacturers charge full price. When the credit isn't available, they offer "manufacturers credit" for roughly the same amount.
Price is the intersection of supply and demand. No manufacturer is going to leave money on the table by selling something at a lower price than demand dictates.
Whether or not one gets a "good deal" buying a new car has more to do with overall market conditions. If it's a sellers market, the buyer won't get a good deal. If it's a buyers market, there's probably a surplus of inventory and a recession slowing the velocity of money.
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