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Old 08-09-2022, 07:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
One thing I've learned is *every* automatic car I've driven that has a "manual" mode will let the driver upshift sooner than even the factory "eco" mode programming. Even some CVT's permit it. Some geared automatics will also permit you to start out in 2nd gear in manual mode, but won't when in "D". (My folks' new-to-them Kia Soul does this.)



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"Short-shifting" a Jeep Patriot & Audi A4 CVT (forcing early "upshift") saves gas


So that can make driving modern automatics slightly less boring, and slightly more efficient.
I find it funny that we compare the modern automatic to the not-so-modern manual. Manual transmissions haven't changed much since synchromesh was introduced. Automatics are totaly differnt animals than what they used to be.

If someone would make a modern manual transmission, (maybe an automatic with the option to shift into whatever gear the driver wants is a modern manual transmission) then maybe we could have a fair comparison.

I think sequential shift dog clutch transmissions should be offered as modern manuals.
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