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redpoint5 · 10-11-2022, 12:28 AM

I concede we are in fact leaves on the water, but it isn't a useful frame. There's no getting around the absolute necessity to proceed as if we are free to make our own decisions. We possess intention that makes us unique from inanimate objects.

10-11-2022, 12:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
redpoint5 Human Environmentalist Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 12,754 Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX 90 day: 24.19 mpg (US) Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i 90 day: 47.32 mpg (US) Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base 90 day: 21.82 mpg (US) Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2 90 day: 17.14 mpg (US) Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid 90 day: 57.45 mpg (US) Thanks: 4,316 Thanked 4,472 Times in 3,437 Posts	I concede we are in fact leaves on the water, but it isn't a useful frame. There's no getting around the absolute necessity to proceed as if we are free to make our own decisions. We possess intention that makes us unique from inanimate objects. __________________ Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator Give me absolute safety, or give me death!